On his bilge pump blog [Man Boobz] today, Davey decided to use the Newtown Connecticut tragedy as a vehicle with which to launch another attack on Men's Rights Activists and on the website "A Voice for Men". We've been slimed!
True to form, Davey Gravy milks the posted opinion of one commenter to be the official platform of the entire men's movement.
Master baiter and all-around bottom feeder that he is, he thinks the majority of his readers still believe:
a. ... he is an actual mole that has managed to infiltrate MRA sites;
b. ... the specious, sophomoric sophistry he prints passes for concrete, airtight, unassailable logic; and ...
c. ... the blatant, obsessive cherry-picking he displays doesn't lift things out of context and distort them.
As to the mole issue, MRA sites do not bar women of any affiliation from visiting them. They are free to post comments and to participate in the forums. Women, including feminists, are encouraged to join the forums and comment on the blogs. The policy is to let feminist trolls and provocateurs simply wear themselves out over time. Daveyboy is not infiltrating anything that isn't already open for view!
He IS, however, taking what his feminist obergruppenfuhrers feed him and pimping it like he's at The Hunts Point section of the Bronx. Feministas seem to consider strawman arguments a sign of forensic superiority. Arguing in a circle seems to be a favorite tactic of theirs. They love to set up their rhetoric by claiming to know in advance what their opponents are going to say.
In this case, Dave the Slave just knows poster GregA, on A Voice for Men, is going to be called nothing more than a typical feminist troll by MRA's. To refute this anticipated claim, he points out that the poster is a "regular" on AVFM, one whose previous contributions were well received by other posters. Then he dredges up memories of infamous spree-shootings from the past. Regular AVFM poster GregA, Marc Lepine, Anders Breivik, the Seal Beach shooter .... shazaam .... MRA's are a bunch of mass murderers who support shooting sprees!!!
The Big Tuna forgets the best trolls are not necessarily feminist or even female. If they are smart, they are not 'bomb throwers' either. They try to the best of their ability to fit in with the rest, often by insincerely parroting what they feel they must. Oh ... and yes, if successful, they are "regulars" on their chosen boards.
Davey also fails to see that the cowardly potshots he likes to take at MRA's are closest in content to the mindset of spree killers than any comparisons he has drawn. His blog is a sublimated version of spree-killing.
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Sunday, January 29, 2012
The Mayor of Toad Hall Guest Blogs on Feministe!
Projection is a psychological defense mechnanism in which you see your own blindspot or blindspots in another individual or group. Part of traditional psychoanalytic practice is helping the analysand to "withdraw" his or her projections about life and the people in it.
Fatboy Cartoons, traitor to men par excellence, loves to project his fantasies, stupidity and suppressed anger on to the men's movement ... as though he has a license from the state to do so and a presidential pardon in his back pocket. A brief summary of these projections is given here in his guest article on Feministe, titled "Reporting for Duty."
REMEMBER: Misogyny is nothing more than strong and persistent disagreement with the feminist ideological worldview!
[I love this new invention of the manginas called a Trigger Warning - 'look out, look out; there's a trigger!' Like his feminist handlers, Toadie leaves off the end statement and lets you fill it in with your own presumptions.]
TRIGGER WARNING: Many of the links below lead to articles commenting on and quoting some pretty extreme misogyny.
So hey, Feministes. Jill has generously invited me to guest blog here, and I thought I’d introduce myself.
I’m a longtime journalist, writing about everything from gender and sexuality to money. (It’s the latter kind of writing that actually pays the bills.) You can see an assortment of my articles and book reviews here.
For the past seven months or so I’ve been writing about misogyny on my blog Man Boobz. It’s been a highly educational experience, to say the least. I started the blog initially intending it to offer a critique of the Men’s Rights movement, but the more I delved into the MR movement the more misogyny I found, and the more I became convinced that for a considerable number of Men’s Rights Activists (MRAs) it was misogyny, not a deep concern for men’s issues, that drove their online activism. (I suppose I should put “activism” in quotes here; as I have pointed out before, MRAs are some of the least activist activists I’ve ever run across, and mostly spend their time kvetching about feminism and/or women in general online.)
Now I focus mostly on tracking down and critiquing – or, in many cases, simply mocking — misogyny online, much of it found on MRA and related sites. I devote a lot of time to one sort-of bastard child of the MR movement that refers to itself by the ungraceful acronym MGTOW, which stands for Men Going Their Own Way. What this little formulation means for individual MGTOWers varies – not all of them are literally male separatists who try to avoid women altogether – but for most of them, it seems to involve posting a shit-ton of misogynistic crap on the Internet.
Some of what I write about is truly vile and disturbing, and tough to read, but much of it is so over-the-top that it’s impossible to do anything but point and laugh at its absurdities. Given that the people I’m writing about tend to be mostly inconsequential idiots, I try to keep the tone as light as possible, given the subject matter. But a word of warning: much of what I write about – and quote from extensively – on my blog is fairly vile, and my posts should probably come with an assortment of trigger warnings. Also, the comments section of my blog is pretty much overrun with angry and often misogynistic guys, and many of their comments are pretty obnoxious. It’s a pretty lively place, but not a “safe space.”
So there’s my somewhat long-winded intro. This week I will be posting reworked versions of some posts on my site that I think will be especially interesting to the Feministe crowd, as well as some new pieces. We’ll be discussing everything from the geeky misogyny of Dilbert creator Scott Adams to the notion, strongly held by some MRAs and MGTOWers, that sexbots will destroy feminism and put women “in their place.” http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2011/03/23/reporting-for-duty/
Toadie the Intrepid - still out there stalking the wild MRA sites and choosing less than two percent of what he finds as material to report to his feminist handlers. So sad ... hey, anybody up for hunting down some sexbots?
Fatboy Cartoons, traitor to men par excellence, loves to project his fantasies, stupidity and suppressed anger on to the men's movement ... as though he has a license from the state to do so and a presidential pardon in his back pocket. A brief summary of these projections is given here in his guest article on Feministe, titled "Reporting for Duty."
REMEMBER: Misogyny is nothing more than strong and persistent disagreement with the feminist ideological worldview!
[I love this new invention of the manginas called a Trigger Warning - 'look out, look out; there's a trigger!' Like his feminist handlers, Toadie leaves off the end statement and lets you fill it in with your own presumptions.]
TRIGGER WARNING: Many of the links below lead to articles commenting on and quoting some pretty extreme misogyny.
So hey, Feministes. Jill has generously invited me to guest blog here, and I thought I’d introduce myself.
I’m a longtime journalist, writing about everything from gender and sexuality to money. (It’s the latter kind of writing that actually pays the bills.) You can see an assortment of my articles and book reviews here.
For the past seven months or so I’ve been writing about misogyny on my blog Man Boobz. It’s been a highly educational experience, to say the least. I started the blog initially intending it to offer a critique of the Men’s Rights movement, but the more I delved into the MR movement the more misogyny I found, and the more I became convinced that for a considerable number of Men’s Rights Activists (MRAs) it was misogyny, not a deep concern for men’s issues, that drove their online activism. (I suppose I should put “activism” in quotes here; as I have pointed out before, MRAs are some of the least activist activists I’ve ever run across, and mostly spend their time kvetching about feminism and/or women in general online.)
Now I focus mostly on tracking down and critiquing – or, in many cases, simply mocking — misogyny online, much of it found on MRA and related sites. I devote a lot of time to one sort-of bastard child of the MR movement that refers to itself by the ungraceful acronym MGTOW, which stands for Men Going Their Own Way. What this little formulation means for individual MGTOWers varies – not all of them are literally male separatists who try to avoid women altogether – but for most of them, it seems to involve posting a shit-ton of misogynistic crap on the Internet.
Some of what I write about is truly vile and disturbing, and tough to read, but much of it is so over-the-top that it’s impossible to do anything but point and laugh at its absurdities. Given that the people I’m writing about tend to be mostly inconsequential idiots, I try to keep the tone as light as possible, given the subject matter. But a word of warning: much of what I write about – and quote from extensively – on my blog is fairly vile, and my posts should probably come with an assortment of trigger warnings. Also, the comments section of my blog is pretty much overrun with angry and often misogynistic guys, and many of their comments are pretty obnoxious. It’s a pretty lively place, but not a “safe space.”
So there’s my somewhat long-winded intro. This week I will be posting reworked versions of some posts on my site that I think will be especially interesting to the Feministe crowd, as well as some new pieces. We’ll be discussing everything from the geeky misogyny of Dilbert creator Scott Adams to the notion, strongly held by some MRAs and MGTOWers, that sexbots will destroy feminism and put women “in their place.” http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2011/03/23/reporting-for-duty/
Toadie the Intrepid - still out there stalking the wild MRA sites and choosing less than two percent of what he finds as material to report to his feminist handlers. So sad ... hey, anybody up for hunting down some sexbots?
Friday, January 20, 2012
An Article From ACatalogueofLies Blog
JTO dissects feminist David Futrelle’s latest lies and false accusations
Johntheother writes here http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/depraved-and-futile-boob-makes-jtos-argument/, original piece here http://manboobz.com/2011/11/21/mens-rights-site-a-voice-for-men-offers-1000-bounty-for-personal-information-on-swedish-feminists/
….”[A] male feminist has taken exception to my article, two days ago, calling for the public identification of Swedish murder advocates. These are the Valerie Solinas followers who identify themselves as “Scum having fun” in a video depicting the gleeful shooting of a man for no reason.
Futrelle apparently thinks publicly identifying the promoters of murder is a problem. The video, which has been on youtube for a year – is in no danger of being taken offline – despite its unambiguous call for murder. Futrelle claims that “do your part” after depicting a young woman shooting a man point blank is only a performance piece. “Violence and murder have been dramatized in the theater since its beginnings,” says David.
And he’s right, however, horror, or action films depicting violence aren’t published under the title “manifesto” and generally don’t end with calls to action, emulating the depicted violence.
Shakespear didn’t attempt to kill his own uncle after writing Hamlet. Solinas, the author of The Scum Manifesto, did attempt to murder Andy Warhol. The same Scum Manifesto from which our Swedish murder enthusiasts take their identification.
There’s a difference between between depiction of violence – and advocacy of it, and Futrelle is trying to disguise that difference. Futrelle might even half-believe his own argument. It must require constant effort to keep cheerleading a doctrine of violence and hatred while telling yourself it’s humanism. However, seeking approval for conformance to the dominant ideology is more important than actually opposing murder for this depraved and futile male feminist.
So, the MRA is the bad guy for what, publishing the names of advocates of murder?
Our Depraved and futile murder apologist actually makes my points for me. In his copy-paste of my argument, he even highlights a key statement which I assumed readers didn’t need explicitly pointed out to them. [Emphasis Futrelle's]
In the truth-is-fiction world of Futrelle’s mind, the men’s right advocates calling for public identification of a hate organization have been transmogrified into promoters of violence.
And what if they get killed David? What if rather than be arrested – as promoters of hate, and public advocates of murder, what if these depraved and murderous female supremacists come to harm at the hands of a citizen. If that happens, it will mean that a society’s system of law, designed to prevent hate organizations, and to allow redress of grievance through non violent due process is gone, wiped out by your ideology of violence and hate. That’s what you’re defending, David.
The futile and depraved collaborator carried on to cite several apparently inflammatory comments by readers of AVfM, and since no item of feminist agitprop is complete without lies, he throws a few in.
In his ideologically induced blindness – Manboob is unable to see that the phrase “shoot back” implies defensive use of force. It’s impossible to shoot back, if you are not already being shot at. You know – shot like what is clearly and unambiguously advocated by the swedish feminists.
Yes Dave, I advocate shooting back. As opposed to sitting still while hateful ideologues work themselves up to murder and the public endorsement of killing. Self defense is a moral imperative, although given the deep disconnect from reality demonstrated by our Futile and Depraved Dave – this most simple principal obviously needs explaining.
In truth, the Depraved and Futile attempt to characterize opposition to murder as if it was the feminists video endorsing murder is hard to rebuke, because in Futrelle’s failed criticism, he makes my own point for me several times. At one point quoting my thesis statement:
Evidently [John the Other] has no problem with, or has somehow not noticed, the comments on AVfM fantasizing about shooting and killing the women involved in the video.
In fact, I hope your article remains online, Dave – because no rebuttal of mine could exceed the job of outing your craven stupidity, and sickening support of murder-advocating hate organization naming itself “Society for Cutting Up Men.”
To those who support you or your ideology, beware. Not of violence – not of murder. Unlike David Futrelle, I do not and will not lend myself to the support of violence, or indeed, of murder. Beware that we will expose you, and illuminate your hatred and your support of violence for the world to see clearly.
David Futrelle is not, in my opinion, confused. He knows his position is immoral, unethical and in support of hatred and violence and murder. He takes this position not because he thinks it’s right, but because it is the dominant narrative, the dominant ideology. He is an authoritarian, and a lickspittle, and he knows it.”
Other online feminists that have come out in support of these lies and false accusations include Holly Pervocracy and NSWATM’s Ozymandias.
http://acatalogueoflies.wordpress.com/2011/11/23/jto-dissects-feminist-david-futrelles-latest-false-accusations/
….”[A] male feminist has taken exception to my article, two days ago, calling for the public identification of Swedish murder advocates. These are the Valerie Solinas followers who identify themselves as “Scum having fun” in a video depicting the gleeful shooting of a man for no reason.
Futrelle apparently thinks publicly identifying the promoters of murder is a problem. The video, which has been on youtube for a year – is in no danger of being taken offline – despite its unambiguous call for murder. Futrelle claims that “do your part” after depicting a young woman shooting a man point blank is only a performance piece. “Violence and murder have been dramatized in the theater since its beginnings,” says David.
And he’s right, however, horror, or action films depicting violence aren’t published under the title “manifesto” and generally don’t end with calls to action, emulating the depicted violence.
Shakespear didn’t attempt to kill his own uncle after writing Hamlet. Solinas, the author of The Scum Manifesto, did attempt to murder Andy Warhol. The same Scum Manifesto from which our Swedish murder enthusiasts take their identification.
There’s a difference between between depiction of violence – and advocacy of it, and Futrelle is trying to disguise that difference. Futrelle might even half-believe his own argument. It must require constant effort to keep cheerleading a doctrine of violence and hatred while telling yourself it’s humanism. However, seeking approval for conformance to the dominant ideology is more important than actually opposing murder for this depraved and futile male feminist.
So, the MRA is the bad guy for what, publishing the names of advocates of murder?
Our Depraved and futile murder apologist actually makes my points for me. In his copy-paste of my argument, he even highlights a key statement which I assumed readers didn’t need explicitly pointed out to them. [Emphasis Futrelle's]
Some individuals may criticize the intent to publish not only names, but also addresses, phone numbers, employers and other personal information – on the grounds that such exposure create a risk of retributive violence against individuals who openly advocate murder based on sex. It is the considered position of the editorial board of AVfM that any such risks are out-weighed by the ongoing hazard to the public of these individuals continuing to operate in anonymity.That’s right manboob, identifying a group of self-declared murder advocates to the public is more important than protecting those murder advocates from the consequences of advocating murder.
In the truth-is-fiction world of Futrelle’s mind, the men’s right advocates calling for public identification of a hate organization have been transmogrified into promoters of violence.
And what if they get killed David? What if rather than be arrested – as promoters of hate, and public advocates of murder, what if these depraved and murderous female supremacists come to harm at the hands of a citizen. If that happens, it will mean that a society’s system of law, designed to prevent hate organizations, and to allow redress of grievance through non violent due process is gone, wiped out by your ideology of violence and hate. That’s what you’re defending, David.
The futile and depraved collaborator carried on to cite several apparently inflammatory comments by readers of AVfM, and since no item of feminist agitprop is complete without lies, he throws a few in.
In his ideologically induced blindness – Manboob is unable to see that the phrase “shoot back” implies defensive use of force. It’s impossible to shoot back, if you are not already being shot at. You know – shot like what is clearly and unambiguously advocated by the swedish feminists.
Yes Dave, I advocate shooting back. As opposed to sitting still while hateful ideologues work themselves up to murder and the public endorsement of killing. Self defense is a moral imperative, although given the deep disconnect from reality demonstrated by our Futile and Depraved Dave – this most simple principal obviously needs explaining.
In truth, the Depraved and Futile attempt to characterize opposition to murder as if it was the feminists video endorsing murder is hard to rebuke, because in Futrelle’s failed criticism, he makes my own point for me several times. At one point quoting my thesis statement:
“Open advocation of murder cannot be allowed in a civil society, without that society devolving into a culture of brutal violence.”
Unfortunately, he spoils this apparent moment of enlightenment by lying.Evidently [John the Other] has no problem with, or has somehow not noticed, the comments on AVfM fantasizing about shooting and killing the women involved in the video.
LETS EXPOSE YOUR LIES, DAVE.
Every comment posted on that article is still in place – and none advocate violent aggression. The very few hyperbolic mentions of the use of force are statements advocating defense. You would characterize these as murderous, you shameful worm. While you pretend a humanist ethic in defense of the open advocacy of murder.In fact, I hope your article remains online, Dave – because no rebuttal of mine could exceed the job of outing your craven stupidity, and sickening support of murder-advocating hate organization naming itself “Society for Cutting Up Men.”
To those who support you or your ideology, beware. Not of violence – not of murder. Unlike David Futrelle, I do not and will not lend myself to the support of violence, or indeed, of murder. Beware that we will expose you, and illuminate your hatred and your support of violence for the world to see clearly.
David Futrelle is not, in my opinion, confused. He knows his position is immoral, unethical and in support of hatred and violence and murder. He takes this position not because he thinks it’s right, but because it is the dominant narrative, the dominant ideology. He is an authoritarian, and a lickspittle, and he knows it.”
Other online feminists that have come out in support of these lies and false accusations include Holly Pervocracy and NSWATM’s Ozymandias.
http://acatalogueoflies.wordpress.com/2011/11/23/jto-dissects-feminist-david-futrelles-latest-false-accusations/
Monday, May 9, 2011
Fighting Fire With Fire
Life Before Feminism: When a Woman’s at the Wheel ...
by Dave "The Knave" Futrelle
Men’s Rightsers and MGTOWers regularly lament what they see as the baleful influence of feminism on everyday life and popular culture. This is a lie, but how the hell would you know anyway? So it’s perhaps worth reminding people what things were really like before modern – that is, second and third wave – feminism. Actually it's not worth even mentioning, but I'm getting paid for propaganda and this is the best I can come up with today
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Second-wave feminism was in its infancy in 1970 when this charming Goodyear ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wT7zM8XgXQ was shown on the first broadcast of Monday Night Football. It's really a non-issue but I'll try and turn it into one as best I can.
Obviously, the whole “women drivers suck LOL” attitude lives on — in the form of countless dumb jokes, demotivational posters, YouTube compilations, you name it. Again, this is a lie and I rely on your deference to me as an authority to put it past you. Remember that I'm paid to push propaganda and will oversimplify and overgeneralize to my heart's content. I am allowed to totally fabricate whenever I deem necessary.
But none of that shit hits on the same visceral level as this ad. I think that’s partly because of the smug, patronizing tone of the narrator of the Goodyear commercial, and the hint of contempt that slips into his voice when he mentions the possibility of a mere woman taking the wheel. I think it’s also because to whomever made the ad—and presumably a great number of those watching it — the idea that women are awful drivers is simply considered an incontrovertible fact; the ad isn’t even trying to be funny. I know that this is old shit I'm dredging up but I wasn't even born in 1970, so it's just a simple historical revision I'm taking the liberty of making. That's all as far as I am concerned.
Indeed, this deliberately cutesy vintage Volvo ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6evy_yokfog, while equally sexist, seems fairly innocuous by comparison. (My only question is why that poor woman seems to have married her father.) You see, now that even the feminists know their bullshit is wearing thin on the populace at large, they figure I as a girly man can extend its shelf life a little longer. This is what we call fifth wave feminism. Buy yourself a fifth of overproof booze, sip as needed and run around spouting feminist slogans to your heart's content.
http://www.girlymanboobz.com/
by Dave "The Knave" Futrelle
Men’s Rightsers and MGTOWers regularly lament what they see as the baleful influence of feminism on everyday life and popular culture. This is a lie, but how the hell would you know anyway? So it’s perhaps worth reminding people what things were really like before modern – that is, second and third wave – feminism. Actually it's not worth even mentioning, but I'm getting paid for propaganda and this is the best I can come up with today
.
Second-wave feminism was in its infancy in 1970 when this charming Goodyear ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wT7zM8XgXQ was shown on the first broadcast of Monday Night Football. It's really a non-issue but I'll try and turn it into one as best I can.
Obviously, the whole “women drivers suck LOL” attitude lives on — in the form of countless dumb jokes, demotivational posters, YouTube compilations, you name it. Again, this is a lie and I rely on your deference to me as an authority to put it past you. Remember that I'm paid to push propaganda and will oversimplify and overgeneralize to my heart's content. I am allowed to totally fabricate whenever I deem necessary.
But none of that shit hits on the same visceral level as this ad. I think that’s partly because of the smug, patronizing tone of the narrator of the Goodyear commercial, and the hint of contempt that slips into his voice when he mentions the possibility of a mere woman taking the wheel. I think it’s also because to whomever made the ad—and presumably a great number of those watching it — the idea that women are awful drivers is simply considered an incontrovertible fact; the ad isn’t even trying to be funny. I know that this is old shit I'm dredging up but I wasn't even born in 1970, so it's just a simple historical revision I'm taking the liberty of making. That's all as far as I am concerned.
Indeed, this deliberately cutesy vintage Volvo ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6evy_yokfog, while equally sexist, seems fairly innocuous by comparison. (My only question is why that poor woman seems to have married her father.) You see, now that even the feminists know their bullshit is wearing thin on the populace at large, they figure I as a girly man can extend its shelf life a little longer. This is what we call fifth wave feminism. Buy yourself a fifth of overproof booze, sip as needed and run around spouting feminist slogans to your heart's content.
http://www.girlymanboobz.com/
Tuesday, April 5, 2011
DAVEY BOY ATTACKS NICEGUY'S MGTOW FORUM
Dave the Knave lurks MRA forums like a pilot fish looking for a shark to feed off.
Today, he went over to NiceGuy's MGTOW forum and discovered a thread about this blog. His reaction?
Sift through over half a million posts, find a poll about member's feelings toward women and then revert to
form by crying proof of misogyny for the world to see. LOL!
Davey boy, you just directed a mess of new traffic to the forum. What do you think these visitors are going to do ... huff and puff, sigh, purse their lips and stamp their feet? They've got two viable choices. Read the content and respond to it.
Unlike feminist sites, MRA forums encourage discussion and debate ... even with cowardly bed-wetters like you.
Today, he went over to NiceGuy's MGTOW forum and discovered a thread about this blog. His reaction?
Sift through over half a million posts, find a poll about member's feelings toward women and then revert to
form by crying proof of misogyny for the world to see. LOL!
Davey boy, you just directed a mess of new traffic to the forum. What do you think these visitors are going to do ... huff and puff, sigh, purse their lips and stamp their feet? They've got two viable choices. Read the content and respond to it.
Unlike feminist sites, MRA forums encourage discussion and debate ... even with cowardly bed-wetters like you.
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